Muscles don't stretch like rubber bands. Opposing pairs of muscles relax and contract. It's the correct sequencing of the swing that accelerates the club. Restricting the hip turn can cause back injuries.
I caddied for lots of women with the same problem. Poor leg action during down swing. At the top she's fine but as the club descends she doesn't drive her hips through with her legs so her stomach faces the target at impact. She stands straight up at impact, freezing her hips, so a LOT of the power she generated earlier in the swing never gets released. You'll never see a REALLY good player look like 5:07 at impact. She needs to re-read Hogan's book(s).
You do NOT have time (less than 1.5 seconds for an entire swing) to think about all this sequencing. If youturn your trunk/core/abdoman to the top of your backswing and turn to a full funish, everything else happens naturally.
what about the hip turn. i just watched a video on here with arnold palmer and getting power with hip turn. this one seems to be emphasizing more the shoulder turn.
Wouldn't exactly call that a "rotary swing." She's generating power more through arc rather that rotation. Proof is in the high hands and stand up move right before impact. Losing you posture so much is not good in a rotary action.
mmmm. Every martial arts practitioner and boxer will tell you that power comes from the bottom of your stomach somewhere or pelvic floor muscle ….. AND be firmly anchored to the floor ….. basic physics …. just like an explosion needs to push against something to be more effective. Have you tried keeping you swing as low down your torso and away from the shoulders and initiate the down swing by propelling yourself upwards off that front leg? I.E. bend the front knee as you go back with the swing. The right is almost straight. Then push up hard with your front leg as you come back down towards the ball. Try hopping on one leg as an exercise. That will give you the picture. Essentially you're fully balanced on your front leg during the whole of your swing.
Holly does a good job of going wide narrow to wide. Bobby Jones Turn his hips considerably further than 30 degrees and took the club well past parallel and it didn't hurt his swing.
I don't understand why everybody is so concerned with her right elbow, she's hitting a driver so to me it looks like her triangle at the top is about right?? She has to stand a little higher with the driver and come into the ball a little flatter….no? Good vid Clay!
Hip and shoulder separation isn't really relevant to a good golf swing. It's mostly about controlling the momentum of the club through the downswing.
Holly actually has a reasonably terrible backswing. Her straight right arm is completely wrong. She also fails to load the wrist early enough, causing her to cross the line at the top. By the way, you called this a small error and no big deal. Actually, it's a HUGE error. It's caused by lack of loading the club.
Here's why it's a huge error.
When you cross the line at the top, the club basically points right — or it has crossed the plane line. (Doesn't matter if that makes total sense.) As the club starts down, you are now forced to re-direct it back onto the plane line. This causes a pull with both the left arm and the shoulders. When you pull on the club, it falls "behind you". If you don't understand that concept, check out Nicklaus in Golf My Way, where he says, "You can't release the club too early." What he means is, the first move out of the top needs to direct the momentum of the club back at the ball. If you pull the club, the momentum is behind you.
If you notice in Holly's downswing (much more critical than the backswing, but again, no matter) she has to "pull the club" to get it back on plane, and heading towards the ball. It may be hard to see at first, but keep looking, and Nicklaus' quote may start to make sense.
As far as shoulder and hip 'separation' – that just sets up a pull, which is bad. So the more you separate, the more likely it is you will pull.
Her right hip is in a good position going back. That's about it. Start there, and see if you can figure out what Nicklaus meant. You might want to turn off the audio, as it's a little distracting.
Way too steep, standing up on impact, massive stall, left leg posted so no more hip rotation for her and the blue and orange outfit…. yuck
Muscles don't stretch like rubber bands. Opposing pairs of muscles relax and contract. It's the correct sequencing of the swing that accelerates the club. Restricting the hip turn can cause back injuries.
Hottest 45 year old in golf…..wait…she isn't 45? Is she 35?
I caddied for lots of women with the same problem. Poor leg action during down swing. At the top she's fine but as the club descends she doesn't drive her hips through with her legs so her stomach faces the target at impact. She stands straight up at impact, freezing her hips, so a LOT of the power she generated earlier in the swing never gets released. You'll never see a REALLY good player look like 5:07 at impact. She needs to re-read Hogan's book(s).
She sends me to woodyville.
You do NOT have time (less than 1.5 seconds for an entire swing) to think about all this sequencing. If youturn your trunk/core/abdoman to the top of your backswing and turn to a full funish, everything else happens naturally.
what about the hip turn. i just watched a video on here with arnold palmer and getting power with hip turn. this one
seems to be emphasizing more the shoulder turn.
Who cares where the ball went…
From the angle of the camera, the swing looks like an out to in.
she's a woman, and very athletic, so naturally more flexible, which allows for more rotation. what about the rest of us?
wow man your whack. In my round tomorrow I will pretend your face is the ball. nevermind your not even talented enough to lace up my cleats
Wouldn't exactly call that a "rotary swing." She's generating power more through arc rather that rotation. Proof is in the high hands and stand up move right before impact. Losing you posture so much is not good in a rotary action.
everyone's shoulder turn is different to that person.
mmmm. Every martial arts practitioner and boxer will tell you that power comes from the bottom of your stomach somewhere or pelvic floor muscle ….. AND be firmly anchored to the floor ….. basic physics …. just like an explosion needs to push against something to be more effective. Have you tried keeping you swing as low down your torso and away from the shoulders and initiate the down swing by propelling yourself upwards off that front leg? I.E. bend the front knee as you go back with the swing. The right is almost straight. Then push up hard with your front leg as you come back down towards the ball. Try hopping on one leg as an exercise. That will give you the picture. Essentially you're fully balanced on your front leg during the whole of your swing.
Holly does a good job of going wide narrow to wide. Bobby Jones Turn his hips considerably further than 30 degrees and took the club well past parallel and it didn't hurt his swing.
Great analysis of the golf swing, Butt i am only able to focus on those great leggs ; )
I don't understand why everybody is so concerned with her right elbow, she's hitting a driver so to me it looks like her triangle at the top is about right?? She has to stand a little higher with the driver and come into the ball a little flatter….no? Good vid Clay!
Wow. In both senses of the word.
Hip and shoulder separation isn't really relevant to a good golf swing. It's mostly about controlling the momentum of the club through the downswing.
Holly actually has a reasonably terrible backswing. Her straight right arm is completely wrong. She also fails to load the wrist early enough, causing her to cross the line at the top. By the way, you called this a small error and no big deal. Actually, it's a HUGE error. It's caused by lack of loading the club.
Here's why it's a huge error.
When you cross the line at the top, the club basically points right — or it has crossed the plane line. (Doesn't matter if that makes total sense.) As the club starts down, you are now forced to re-direct it back onto the plane line. This causes a pull with both the left arm and the shoulders. When you pull on the club, it falls "behind you". If you don't understand that concept, check out Nicklaus in Golf My Way, where he says, "You can't release the club too early." What he means is, the first move out of the top needs to direct the momentum of the club back at the ball. If you pull the club, the momentum is behind you.
If you notice in Holly's downswing (much more critical than the backswing, but again, no matter) she has to "pull the club" to get it back on plane, and heading towards the ball. It may be hard to see at first, but keep looking, and Nicklaus' quote may start to make sense.
As far as shoulder and hip 'separation' – that just sets up a pull, which is bad. So the more you separate, the more likely it is you will pull.
Her right hip is in a good position going back. That's about it. Start there, and see if you can figure out what Nicklaus meant. You might want to turn off the audio, as it's a little distracting.
Much love. Happy golfing.
Is it a good idea to keep the right arm straight in the takeaway with the irons too?