As I was watching it, I imagined grand conspiracies that involved politicians, religious leaders, police department and Maggie Hart. I'm somewhat disappointed that the final villian is some crazy hillbilly noone care about and it didn't go deeper and catch the other villians who remain free
The problem with True Detective wasnt the ending it was the last two episodes. They were both weak and lacked the atmosphere of the previous 6. In fact the final two episodes played similar to any other cop/murder series. Plus there were some ridiculous leaps in the final two episodes (like making the connection with a house being painted etc) Plus I get that the whole story was more about the men than the case but it never really expanded on the reason for the public displayed bodies with horns etc or any of the history of the yellow king and his followers etc. It just went "oh dont worry about any of that"
I remember reading an interview with the director who said that the last two episodes scripts were being delayed – e.g. they either got writers block or didnt have a clue how to end it.
On the last part. A strong argument could be made that from his near death experience, chole gave in to part of his "essential programming", and embraced it. Maybe an acceptance that it's not a bad thing. Or that it is necessary for surviving that kind of trauma.
You could say it was out of character, but Cohle changes a lot through the time we see him.
I didn't like the fact that the only people that were punished were two hillbillies. I mean, so many kids missing and murdered. So many people that were involved, cops, people from the church, a long line of family members. Made me hate this world. Especially because Mathew found peace at the end. But all these children never found justice.
Not sure why people call the ending of this series "brilliant". It was boring and the born-again act at the end made me want to check the sponsor list of the program. It's Texas after all, so I guess my suspicions extend into reality…
Wow you guys didn't catch shit. 1-the fontanont(I apologize if I butchered her name) was abducted by I believe Errol Childess (but it could have been anyone in the Tuttle/childess family) the investigation didn't go state wide like Marty thought it would cause the town sheriff was a member of the childess family tree, I believe errol's brother or cousin. When rust found that triangle stick sculpted in the fontanont's shed it was likely put there by the sheriff who was also likely one of the 5 horsemen
This show, True Detective is a wonderful mirror. It'll only let you see what you're capable to see. The rest, you'll deny it or reject it. Even the ending.
Errol childess was the yellow king. His brother or maybe cousin of the sheriff of the town who had the missing girl I believe her last name was fontanont (sorry if I butchered her name) when rust found the triangle stick sculpture in the shed of the fontanot's shed it was likely put their by the sheriff who was apart of the Tuttle/childess cult. Because the woman said "I haven't been in the shed since the police went there. The childess sheriff also likely smoothed over the girls investigation because in the first episode Marty was surprised it wasn't a huge thing and didn't go state wide
I believe she is right, I believe that some people identified themselves with Rust and felt invalidated at the end when he changed his views, thats why it felt like a cope out. However, I feel that that was exacerbated by the lack of transition between the two views. At one point he had these very extreme views, believing that consciousness (EVERYTHING we experience as awareness) is nothing more than a programming error, "an aspect of nature outside itself", and should be eliminated; literally 10 minutes later (real time) he believes in the after life and light vs. darkness. I understand that it is possible given the circumstances that he went through in the story, but as an audience we were not given enough time to process this extreme change. So it felt fake and since it happened at the end, another Hollywood happy ending. I feel that more time should of had been given between him and Marty arguing it out at the end, and finally Rust caving in to at least accepting agnosticism .
What was subtle was the people who were "brought to justice" were not the end of the line (Rev. Tuttles brother was Governor, (remember the "Task Force"). Recall the line by character actor Dan Hedaya to Chazz Palminteri early in the movie "The Usual Suspects","I'm telling you this guy is protected from up on high by the Prince of Darkness." a comment in regard to the political and power sophistos concerned about their connection to Verbal Kint. It's hinted here, in a sub-rosa way that they'll throw out the trash and continue to walk. And to all the agnostic atheists you can't deny one and give the other a pass or are you simply daft.
As I was watching it, I imagined grand conspiracies that involved politicians, religious leaders, police department and Maggie Hart. I'm somewhat disappointed that the final villian is some crazy hillbilly noone care about and it didn't go deeper and catch the other villians who remain free
as if True Detective needs this shit IGN to determine whether the ending was good or not, what a joke.
His viewpoint isn't just atheistic, it's pessimistic and it's that that makes his conclusions seem unrealistic for that character.
I cried like a child during the last 10 minutes of the last episode.
The problem with True Detective wasnt the ending it was the last two episodes. They were both weak and lacked the atmosphere of the previous 6. In fact the final two episodes played similar to any other cop/murder series. Plus there were some ridiculous leaps in the final two episodes (like making the connection with a house being painted etc) Plus I get that the whole story was more about the men than the case but it never really expanded on the reason for the public displayed bodies with horns etc or any of the history of the yellow king and his followers etc. It just went "oh dont worry about any of that"
I remember reading an interview with the director who said that the last two episodes scripts were being delayed – e.g. they either got writers block or didnt have a clue how to end it.
On the last part. A strong argument could be made that from his near death experience, chole gave in to part of his "essential programming", and embraced it. Maybe an acceptance that it's not a bad thing. Or that it is necessary for surviving that kind of trauma.
You could say it was out of character, but Cohle changes a lot through the time we see him.
True Detective…..beautiful. Your discussion…….beautiful. Your well thought out perspectives…..beautiful.Ending to True Detective…..perfect.
Didn't like the ending
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I didn't like the fact that the only people that were punished were two hillbillies. I mean, so many kids missing and murdered. So many people that were involved, cops, people from the church, a long line of family members. Made me hate this world. Especially because Mathew found peace at the end. But all these children never found justice.
Not sure why people call the ending of this series "brilliant". It was boring and the born-again act at the end made me want to check the sponsor list of the program. It's Texas after all, so I guess my suspicions extend into reality…
we get it, you don't share that point of view.
Wow you guys didn't catch shit.
1-the fontanont(I apologize if I butchered her name) was abducted by I believe Errol Childess (but it could have been anyone in the Tuttle/childess family) the investigation didn't go state wide like Marty thought it would cause the town sheriff was a member of the childess family tree, I believe errol's brother or cousin. When rust found that triangle stick sculpted in the fontanont's shed it was likely put there by the sheriff who was also likely one of the 5 horsemen
This show, True Detective is a wonderful mirror. It'll only let you see what you're capable to see. The rest, you'll deny it or reject it. Even the ending.
Errol childess was the yellow king. His brother or maybe cousin of the sheriff of the town who had the missing girl I believe her last name was fontanont (sorry if I butchered her name) when rust found the triangle stick sculpture in the shed of the fontanot's shed it was likely put their by the sheriff who was apart of the Tuttle/childess cult. Because the woman said "I haven't been in the shed since the police went there. The childess sheriff also likely smoothed over the girls investigation because in the first episode Marty was surprised it wasn't a huge thing and didn't go state wide
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I believe she is right, I believe that some people identified themselves with Rust and felt invalidated at the end when he changed his views, thats why it felt like a cope out. However, I feel that that was exacerbated by the lack of transition between the two views. At one point he had these very extreme views, believing that consciousness (EVERYTHING we experience as awareness) is nothing more than a programming error, "an aspect of nature outside itself", and should be eliminated; literally 10 minutes later (real time) he believes in the after life and light vs. darkness. I understand that it is possible given the circumstances that he went through in the story, but as an audience we were not given enough time to process this extreme change. So it felt fake and since it happened at the end, another Hollywood happy ending. I feel that more time should of had been given between him and Marty arguing it out at the end, and finally Rust caving in to at least accepting agnosticism .
Interesting analysis. This is not at all how I understood the whole thing.
Those tits tho
McGonnaheyhey did an amazing job. One of those times when an actor was born to play a role and all the stars aligned.
What was subtle was the people who were "brought to justice" were not the end of the line (Rev. Tuttles brother was Governor, (remember the "Task Force"). Recall the line by character actor Dan Hedaya to Chazz Palminteri early in the movie "The Usual Suspects","I'm telling you this guy is protected from up on high by the Prince of Darkness." a comment in regard to the political and power sophistos concerned about their connection to Verbal Kint. It's hinted here, in a sub-rosa way that they'll throw out the trash and continue to walk. And to all the agnostic atheists you can't deny one and give the other a pass or are you simply daft.
Thank goodness for no major plot twists or something like that. It's cheap!