Hi klesmer, Piper originally used an in-wing radar on the PA46. It was a Sperry Weather Scout… not as good as the RDR2000 that replaced it. The pod allows for a 10 inch antenna which is superior to the older model. The idea stuck. Both the PC12 and the TBM use pods; they just located them differently. I do not know the reason but I suppose the existing PA46 wing would have had to have had an expensive modification to integrate the pod. Fly Safely – Train Often — Dick Rochfort
Thanks Dick, love your vids and Malibu's. My question is why does Piper use the pod type radar versus the leading edge unit like the PC-12 and the Cessna 208? Is one better than the other, or a structual issue or just plain money?
Hello @rwrpilottraining , I watched your video because I got flight-fright, I avoid flying even if this means I have to take a 10h train instead of a 1h flight.. So I'm trying to familiarize with the aspects of weather and how it affects an aircraft – turbulence of course… etc. Question: I've been to a couple of flights where the ride was bumpy. Why does a pilot make the decision to go through the bumpy road instead of avoid it? Weather Prediction mistake?Just bored to go around it?Thnx a lot!
@MichaelNewmann
Hi Michael, Radar shows only water, not lightning, so it is important to have data link weather or sferics (strikiefinder etc) to be able to see lightning. A good rule of thumb for me is to estimate tops and do not get any closer in miles than the system is tall in thousands of feet. That is if tops are to 35,000 stay at least 35 miles away.
@AirNZ320FO Hi, Just to be clear, it was not a "cell" because it was not producing lightning. It was a demonstration of how clear ice and turbulence can affect a light aircraft. This deomonstration was safe because we anticipated the light to moderate turbulence and ice within and because we limited our exposure.
Fly safely – train often … DR
@typo368 A radar could be installed on a car, yes, but not a type of this such. This radar is specifically made for aircraft, one for a vehicle would still require to use a gyroscopic control like an aircraft to keep it in place (several thousand dollars already for the radar, gyro, and viewer). It would be virtually impossible to run a radar (like the NEXRAD Network) at home due to the power requirements. It would be extreme. Where do you think the NWS' budget goes to? Bills and Staff Payments.
Thanks for the video! I am a supervisor at Fort Worth Center (and you happen to be flying through my specialty's airspace in this clip) and we have just convened a workgroup to investigate ways we can improve our service. Finding better ways to inform pilots of our displayed weather was considered by our group to be our most important issue. Knowing what you see, both visually and on radar will be a great help in this effort. If you have any suggestions in this regard, I'd love to hear them.
Thank u very much
This is the best bad weather conditions video I've ever seen… I've been in this conditions in a cirrus with the same avidyne avionis. Awesome
Hi klesmer, Piper originally used an in-wing radar on the PA46. It was a Sperry Weather Scout… not as good as the RDR2000 that replaced it. The pod allows for a 10 inch antenna which is superior to the older model. The idea stuck. Both the PC12 and the TBM use pods; they just located them differently. I do not know the reason but I suppose the existing PA46 wing would have had to have had an expensive modification to integrate the pod. Fly Safely – Train Often — Dick Rochfort
Thanks Dick, love your vids and Malibu's. My question is why does Piper use the pod type radar versus the leading edge unit like the PC-12 and the Cessna 208? Is one better than the other, or a structual issue or just plain money?
this might sound silly,but could one of those be used in a car, or at home to monitor weather?????
Hello @rwrpilottraining , I watched your video because I got flight-fright, I avoid flying even if this means I have to take a 10h train instead of a 1h flight.. So I'm trying to familiarize with the aspects of weather and how it affects an aircraft – turbulence of course… etc. Question: I've been to a couple of flights where the ride was bumpy. Why does a pilot make the decision to go through the bumpy road instead of avoid it? Weather Prediction mistake?Just bored to go around it?Thnx a lot!
@MichaelNewmann
Hi Michael, Radar shows only water, not lightning, so it is important to have data link weather or sferics (strikiefinder etc) to be able to see lightning. A good rule of thumb for me is to estimate tops and do not get any closer in miles than the system is tall in thousands of feet. That is if tops are to 35,000 stay at least 35 miles away.
@AirNZ320FO Hi, Just to be clear, it was not a "cell" because it was not producing lightning. It was a demonstration of how clear ice and turbulence can affect a light aircraft. This deomonstration was safe because we anticipated the light to moderate turbulence and ice within and because we limited our exposure.
Fly safely – train often … DR
Great video, you can tell a good bump when you hear things rattling around in the audio
@typo368 A radar could be installed on a car, yes, but not a type of this such. This radar is specifically made for aircraft, one for a vehicle would still require to use a gyroscopic control like an aircraft to keep it in place (several thousand dollars already for the radar, gyro, and viewer). It would be virtually impossible to run a radar (like the NEXRAD Network) at home due to the power requirements. It would be extreme. Where do you think the NWS' budget goes to? Bills and Staff Payments.
I'm taking notes!
Sweet video, i'm constantly dealing with these same issues, rarely seen as much ice in 5 seconds, ima be alil more careful haha, thanks guys
Thanks for the video! I am a supervisor at Fort Worth Center (and you happen to be flying through my specialty's airspace in this clip) and we have just convened a workgroup to investigate ways we can improve our service. Finding better ways to inform pilots of our displayed weather was considered by our group to be our most important issue. Knowing what you see, both visually and on radar will be a great help in this effort. If you have any suggestions in this regard, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks a lot for uploading, there are very few videos showing weather radar operations and ice encounter like this,