You know back then guys didn't make crap like they do today. I k n ow he wasn't starvin I get it. But theres got to be someone out there who is pissed that these steroid using cheaters get to be asociated with the game and pete gets the big ass boot. Come on man!
Goes for his personal, professional, and fatherly life.
All anyone wanted was for him to come clean, and actually feel contrite. He's still done neither. Look at how flippant he is towards his own children and being a horrible father. The man has no conscience or shred of humanity.
If anyone on the list of banned players should be in the Hall you could say Eddie Cicotte, Joe Jackson, and Buck Weaver belong in long before Petey. They actually expressed remorse for decades and truly meant it.
This was a very sad Sportscentury.Baseball is the most heralded sport in America,Pete Rose apparently thought he was bigger than the game, he wasn't& it's sooo sad because of his greatness on the diamond. Soo many great MLB players of the past 30 years have been frauds…
did he do wrong but yes does not make it right but he play the game let him in baseball hall of fame if it does not happen then take away his all his hits like he didnt play ball but he did play ball and got all the hits maybe he is a asshole but he did play ball
Too bad he didn't play football because even registered sex offenders like Lawrence Taylor and murderers like O.J. Simpson are in the Hall of Fame. I guess betting on baseball is a lot worse than what those two guys did. So stupid.
The man got screwed there is no perfect person walking this earth and you do not want to be perfect for if your are then you will be crucified and hung on a cross and killed !!
At 26 minutes in Pete's son say's he knows what divorce is like and would choose to be a good father over being a star. Then it turns to Pete who say's everyone has their life and it's not important what happened in 1979. I was 11 in 79' when my parents divorced, and my dad was a hot shot athlete, and good looking lady's man. I was a pretty good athlete in my own right, but he was more concerned with him, and after the divorce it hit me hard, and I started blowing off sports and getting in trouble etc. I'm 46 and he is 72 now, and we are, and have been close for yrs. BUT He will not even consider for a minute that my troubled times ever had anything to do with what he did to our family in the 70's. I'm not a wuss, it is just funny to me, but I know a lot just has to do with the era he was from etc. Petes words were just my dad to a T. Funny, he still go's to the gym every day at 6am, and drives a golf ball 270.
Walking through MGM Grand in 2005, my buddy spots Pete sitting by himself at the sports book. Buddy politely asks Pete for an autograph, Pete declines saying he would have to sign everyone's if signed my friends. NOBODY was around. My friend was a minor league player and GIGANTIC Rose fan….and was shocked/saddened Pete couldn't take 2 seconds to scribble his name. My friend died recently…..thanks a lot Pete….I guess it was just too much trouble for you to take 2 seconds out of your precious time.
Thank you so much for posting this. Ive been waiting for this to be available on YouTube for a long time. Peeeeeete. "Cincinnati … Tough guys town. A good place to produce pete rose."
FAY VINCENT SUMMED IT UP WRITE PETE ROSE WAS A PATHETIC FAILURE NO RESPECT FOR NO ONE DID YOU KNOW HE JUST RECENTLY WAS SELLING HIS SIGNED BASEBALL CARDS ON EBAY AND WHEN SOMEBODY DISCOVERED IT WAS HIM HE PULLED THE CARDS WHAT A LOW LIFE
I grew up in Cincinnati, and was a Johnny Bench fan. But I respected Pete, the player. He holds so many MLB records, that he should be in the HOF. No question. But it's that betting thing that keeps him back. Why?
He grew up in a tough, blue-collar neighborhood on the western side of the city. The same area where my grandfather did. Both his dad and my grandfather were Gold Gloves boxers together and knew each other. Sports, as fun as they were back then, were also highly competitive. There were frequent fights, but in the end, by-gone's were by-gone's, and you were friends again after a game, a few punches and bruises, and a couple of drinks. Betting on a game was common then as well, just as putting a wager on a fight, or filling out a bracket sheet for the NCAA tournament is today.
That's the kind of mentality Pete grew up with.
Pete first denied he bet on baseball, but came clean later. He did wrong. Sure, baseball posted the sign in the clubhouse about wagering. He broke that rule. He also, unfortunately, hung out with guys that he "trusted" who ended up being scum. But hindsight is always 20/20. People tried to tell him not to associate with them. But it was already too late.
But now let's look at modern baseball today. There's casino billboards at MLB parks. Some casinos are built short distances from stadiums and ballparks today. St. Louis is a prime example, and many believe that it's the best baseball town in the country. It's now the same in Cincinnati and other cities that have professional sports teams.
*Side note- Being from Cincinnati, I think St. Louis is equal to the Queen City as the best baseball town. But nobody outside of the mid-west would agree to that. Especially in big market areas like New York, Chicago, or LA. They don't care that Cincinnati is the birthplace of professional sports.
MLB has a hypocrisy issue. Not long after Rose was banished by Giamatti, MLB started catering to the gambling establishments. But Rose is still not allowed in. That's a contradiction. But if you take steroids (which is cheating), beat your wife, or frequent a casino without making a sports bet, you can still be a HOF candidate.
Most players today still believe Pete should be enshrined. I agree with them, and his record speaks for itself. Should he be a manager. No. But I tend to agree with Pete that he is one of the best ambassadors the game has.
As for his failure to sign autographs? He SELLS THEM. Why?
In the 1980's, when players gave autographs away like giving out candy, especially to kids, there was this "new business" starting up where "men who never grew up" themselves started selling sports memorabilia for their own profits at the expense of pro athletes. They would take, say, Johnny Bench's autograph, and sell it for even hundreds of dollars. Same with Pete Rose and other ball players and athletes.
How do you think the athletes felt when someone started making money off of them without license to do so? They would be angry!
Back then, kid or adult, you didn't know who might take an autograph, and make a profit on it. Thus, unless you bought it from the player or athlete directly, you got "disrespected" because they began to have distrust in some of the fans.
Today, Rose works for a memorabilia dealer at Caesar's Palace (where Derek Jeter and other athletes frequent themselves). He's been doing that for many years. Sports to him have become more than a game, it's business. He wants it to be HIS business.
Baseball needs to see their own issues, and now let Rose be reinstated for his playing career. If not, then baseball blackmarks its own integrity.
You know back then guys didn't make crap like they do today. I k n ow he wasn't starvin I get it. But theres got to be someone out there who is pissed that these steroid using cheaters get to be asociated with the game and pete gets the big ass boot. Come on man!
I'll say this for Pete Rose, he never DH'd a day in his life… so take that Derek Jeter!
His personality is the worse.
But an interesting one as well.
Fay Vincent's comment says it all…
"He's a pathetic failure.."
Goes for his personal, professional, and fatherly life.
All anyone wanted was for him to come clean, and actually feel contrite. He's still done neither. Look at how flippant he is towards his own children and being a horrible father. The man has no conscience or shred of humanity.
If anyone on the list of banned players should be in the Hall you could say Eddie Cicotte, Joe Jackson, and Buck Weaver belong in long before Petey. They actually expressed remorse for decades and truly meant it.
This was a very sad Sportscentury.Baseball is the most heralded sport in America,Pete Rose apparently thought he was bigger than the game, he wasn't& it's sooo sad because of his greatness on the diamond. Soo many great MLB players of the past 30 years have been frauds…
did he do wrong but yes does not make it right but he play the game let him in baseball hall of fame if it does not happen then take away his all his hits like he didnt play ball but he did play ball and got all the hits maybe he is a asshole but he did play ball
Just to let everyone know Tye cobb beat on baseball. It was a none fact……
Too bad he didn't play football because even registered sex offenders like Lawrence Taylor and murderers like O.J. Simpson are in the Hall of Fame. I guess betting on baseball is a lot worse than what those two guys did. So stupid.
Charlie Hustle? More like Charlie Asshole.
The man got screwed there is no perfect person walking this earth and you do not want to be perfect for if your are then you will be crucified and hung on a cross and killed !!
Love Pete Rose thanks for posting u wouldn't happen to have Ted Williams sportscentury would you????
Check out this video on YouTube:
At 26 minutes in Pete's son say's he knows what divorce is like and would choose to be a good father over being a star.
Then it turns to Pete who say's everyone has their life and it's not important what happened in 1979. I was 11 in 79' when
my parents divorced, and my dad was a hot shot athlete, and good looking lady's man. I was a pretty good athlete in my own right,
but he was more concerned with him, and after the divorce it hit me hard, and I started blowing off sports and getting in trouble etc.
I'm 46 and he is 72 now, and we are, and have been close for yrs. BUT He will not even consider for a minute that my troubled times
ever had anything to do with what he did to our family in the 70's. I'm not a wuss, it is just funny to me, but I know a lot just has to do
with the era he was from etc. Petes words were just my dad to a T. Funny, he still go's to the gym every day at 6am, and drives a golf ball 270.
Walking through MGM Grand in 2005, my buddy spots Pete sitting by himself at the sports book. Buddy politely asks Pete for an autograph, Pete declines saying he would have to sign everyone's if signed my friends. NOBODY was around. My friend was a minor league player and GIGANTIC Rose fan….and was shocked/saddened Pete couldn't take 2 seconds to scribble his name. My friend died recently…..thanks a lot Pete….I guess it was just too much trouble for you to take 2 seconds out of your precious time.
Thank you so much for posting this. Ive been waiting for this to be available on YouTube for a long time. Peeeeeete. "Cincinnati … Tough guys town. A good place to produce pete rose."
Love the clip where he's talking to Reagan….28:09 mark
Fay Vincent claims Rose is a pathetic failure… but I say Vincent is a pathetic person for still beating a dead horse.
FAY VINCENT SUMMED IT UP WRITE PETE ROSE WAS A PATHETIC FAILURE NO RESPECT FOR NO ONE DID YOU KNOW HE JUST RECENTLY WAS SELLING HIS SIGNED BASEBALL CARDS ON EBAY AND WHEN SOMEBODY DISCOVERED IT WAS HIM HE PULLED THE CARDS WHAT A LOW LIFE
Love Pete Rose….love his insane work ethic…his amazing skills….how he played the game….BUT HE BET ON BASEBALL. .PERIOD
I grew up in Cincinnati, and was a Johnny Bench fan. But I respected Pete, the player. He holds so many MLB records, that he should be in the HOF. No question. But it's that betting thing that keeps him back. Why?
He grew up in a tough, blue-collar neighborhood on the western side of the city. The same area where my grandfather did. Both his dad and my grandfather were Gold Gloves boxers together and knew each other. Sports, as fun as they were back then, were also highly competitive. There were frequent fights, but in the end, by-gone's were by-gone's, and you were friends again after a game, a few punches and bruises, and a couple of drinks. Betting on a game was common then as well, just as putting a wager on a fight, or filling out a bracket sheet for the NCAA tournament is today.
That's the kind of mentality Pete grew up with.
Pete first denied he bet on baseball, but came clean later. He did wrong. Sure, baseball posted the sign in the clubhouse about wagering. He broke that rule. He also, unfortunately, hung out with guys that he "trusted" who ended up being scum. But hindsight is always 20/20. People tried to tell him not to associate with them. But it was already too late.
But now let's look at modern baseball today. There's casino billboards at MLB parks. Some casinos are built short distances from stadiums and ballparks today. St. Louis is a prime example, and many believe that it's the best baseball town in the country. It's now the same in Cincinnati and other cities that have professional sports teams.
*Side note- Being from Cincinnati, I think St. Louis is equal to the Queen City as the best baseball town. But nobody outside of the mid-west would agree to that. Especially in big market areas like New York, Chicago, or LA. They don't care that Cincinnati is the birthplace of professional sports.
MLB has a hypocrisy issue. Not long after Rose was banished by Giamatti, MLB started catering to the gambling establishments. But Rose is still not allowed in. That's a contradiction. But if you take steroids (which is cheating), beat your wife, or frequent a casino without making a sports bet, you can still be a HOF candidate.
Most players today still believe Pete should be enshrined. I agree with them, and his record speaks for itself. Should he be a manager. No. But I tend to agree with Pete that he is one of the best ambassadors the game has.
As for his failure to sign autographs? He SELLS THEM. Why?
In the 1980's, when players gave autographs away like giving out candy, especially to kids, there was this "new business" starting up where "men who never grew up" themselves started selling sports memorabilia for their own profits at the expense of pro athletes. They would take, say, Johnny Bench's autograph, and sell it for even hundreds of dollars. Same with Pete Rose and other ball players and athletes.
How do you think the athletes felt when someone started making money off of them without license to do so? They would be angry!
Back then, kid or adult, you didn't know who might take an autograph, and make a profit on it. Thus, unless you bought it from the player or athlete directly, you got "disrespected" because they began to have distrust in some of the fans.
Today, Rose works for a memorabilia dealer at Caesar's Palace (where Derek Jeter and other athletes frequent themselves). He's been doing that for many years. Sports to him have become more than a game, it's business. He wants it to be HIS business.
Baseball needs to see their own issues, and now let Rose be reinstated for his playing career. If not, then baseball blackmarks its own integrity.